Education World Forum Conversations

The Education World Forum is the world’s largest annual gathering of education and skills ministers. It offers a trusted, invitation-only platform for peer-to-peer dialogue, where ministers and their teams can share insights, address common challenges and shape solutions with candour and collaboration.

EWF Conversations is a series of podcasts that extends these conversations beyond the forum itself, engaging the wider international education community throughout the year. Featuring ministers, former ministers and senior leaders from ministries, multilateral organisations, civil society, foundations and industry, the series offers fresh perspectives on the critical issues shaping the future of education worldwide.

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Episodes

Friday May 08, 2026

In this episode of EWF Conversations, EWF Programme Director Fabrizio Trifirò talks to Dana Morris Dixon, Minister for Education, Skills, Youth and Information of Jamaica. Minister Morris Dixon reflects on the challenge of building systemic resilience against climate change following the devastation of Hurricane Melissa while navigating the rapid evolution of AI, highlighting the modernization of technical high schools and initiatives aimed at integrating STEAM methodology across the curriculum to empower young people as producers of technology rather than just consumers. She discusses the critical prioritization of early childhood education to establish a strong foundation, the implementation of the National School Nutrition Policy to support students from food-insecure households, and the value of EWF for fostering international dialogue and sharing lessons from global peers to avoid "reinventing the wheel"

Monday May 11, 2026

In this episode of EWF Conversations, EWF Programme Director Fabrizio Trifirò talks to Pia Britto, UNICEF Global Director of Education. Britto reflects on the challenge of a global education crisis where three-quarters of children are being failed, highlighting a typology of learning failures, denied, disrupted, and delayed, and initiatives aimed at establishing a "future ready" model centered on equity and 21st-century skills. She discusses the findings of UNICEF’s work across 144 countries, the necessity of gender inclusivity through digital and STEM skills, and the impact of human-centered AI. Finally, she explores the value of EWF for fostering international partnerships, sharing examples of how the forum facilitates collective action and turns global dialogue into practical results for the most marginalized children.

Thursday May 14, 2026

In this episode of EWF Conversations, EWF Programme Director Fabrizio Trifirò talks to Amel Karboul Amel Karboul, CEO of the Education Outcomes Fund (EOF), and Eunice Ogolo Director of Girls Capital Africa at the Children's Investment Fund Foundation (CIFF). This is the first in a series of 4 episodes sponsored by EOF to explore how innovative financing is reshaping education and skills systems at a time of fiscal constraints. This first episode sets the context by highlighting the shift toward outcome-based financing and initiatives aimed at aligning incentives around verified results to empower children and young people as they transition into the labor market. Amel and Eunice discuss the evidence of success from impactful programs in India and Sierra Leone, the necessity of building internal government capacity for sophisticated "financial engineering," share examples of how system-wide accountability can ensure children actually learn, and reflect on the challenge of managing shrinking fiscal space and rising debt while simultaneously improving the quality and effectiveness of foundational learning,

Tuesday May 26, 2026

In this episode of EWF Conversations, EWF Programme Director Fabrizio Trifirò talks to Christian Brändli Head of Private Sector Development at the Swiss State Secretary for Economic Affairs (SECO), and Daniel Uribe, Director at Fundación Corona Colombia,. This is the second in a series of 4 episodes sponsored by EOF to explore how innovative financing is reshaping education and skills systems at a time of fiscal constraints.
This second episode focuses on linking financing to employment outcomes, specifically looking at how governments can ensure skills development translates into real-world jobs as labor markets evolve. Christian and Daniel discuss the mismatch between private sector demand and current education supply, the necessity of building internal government capacity to transition from paying for inputs to paying for verified employment results, and share examples of success from impactful programs in Colombia, South Africa, and Morocco. They also reflect on the challenge of using data to track job placement and retention while simultaneously advocating for flexible, micro-credentialed learning pathways to better align with the rapid pace of the modern market

Monday Jun 15, 2026

In this episode of EWF Conversations, EWF Programme Director Fabrizio Trifirò talks to Julia Rubiano, Secretary of Education of Bogotá, Colombia. This episode explores the strategic reforms being implemented to improve quality and equity within Bogotá’s education system. Julia highlights the administration's focus on early childhood and foundational learning through a coordinated intersectoral approach that integrates education with health and social services. She discusses the necessity of addressing core operational inefficiencies, such as teacher absenteeism and service delays, while simultaneously implementing evidence-based strategies for learning recovery. Julia also shares examples of how the city is fostering safe, protective learning environments through the "Schools with Emotions" initiative, reflects on the challenge of finding a balanced, evidence-based approach to AI and social media, and explores how demographic trends like declining birth rates might offer opportunities to transition toward single-school-day models and smaller classroom sizes.

6 days ago

In this episode of EWF Conversations, EWF Programme Director Fabrizio Trifirò talks to Romeela Mohee, Higher Education Commissioner at the Higher Education Commission of Mauritius. This episode explores the strategic reforms being implemented to transform Mauritius into a credible regional education hub and a "knowledge bridge" between Africa and Asia. Romeela highlights the system's evolution from expanding access to ensuring that higher education is responsive, agile, and aligned with national development ambitions. She discusses the necessity of addressing the mismatch between traditional qualifications and evolving industry needs, while simultaneously implementing a national blueprint on microcredentials to foster a more flexible, lifelong learning ecosystem. Romeela also shares examples of how Mauritius is pioneering industry-academia co-designed microcredentials in sectors like AI and tourism, reflects on the challenge of integrating artificial intelligence through the first national guidelines of their kind in Africa, and explores how demographic trends, such as a declining number of local students, are prompting strategies to triple international enrollment from Africa and Asia

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